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1 Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:54 am

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Check back at this thread for more pics later.... Btw, That's Billy's 8X14 Ludwig snare
with this Cravioto kit... It sounded killer by the way!

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2 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:01 am

Based on sound files I've heard in the past I've never really liked the sound of Craviotto drums. Perhaps it's been basic tuning issues I've heard. I don't know. Maybe they sound different up close and personal.

This would seem to mean Billy has an open-ended endorsement contract with Yamaha?

Craviotto makes wonderful drums when it comes to craftsmanship, though. His inlays are really nice.

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3 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:04 am

Billy must be an easy going guy. Crossed heads, mismatched drums, pedals, different set configurations. Talk about not being able to bond with your kit.

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4 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:28 pm

Asaph wrote:Billy must be an easy going guy. Crossed heads, mismatched drums, pedals, different set configurations. Talk about not being able to bond with your kit.

I tend to think you read a bit too much into the equipment factor, Asaph.

Ted said it best: "Billy can play a set of garbage cans and make them sound good."

Close your eyes and you'd never be able to tell all the negatives you point out.
He bonded... Trust me, I was there!



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5 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:33 pm

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Oopsy on the me and Jerry photo... I tried to take it myself... No go! lol!

Great group of guys, on and off stage. We all had a ton of fun!

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6 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:09 pm

You do what you have to do and I'm sure Billy did it well.

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7 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:13 pm

Exactly! In the end it's about the music, not the visual esthetics.
Billy and the band was smokin! And that's what the people paid
their money to see and hear.

At the end of the night. I didn't hear one person complain about
mis-matched drums, heads or pedals because in spite of all that,
Billy and company tore the roof off... Thus the buzz I was hearing
from folks was how awesome the show was.

THAT'S the Coup de Gras!

I don't know what the circumstances were that led to the equipment issues
being what they were.... What I do know is by tours end, it didn't matter,
no one seemed to notice. And if they did, they didn't care.

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8 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:13 am

Great to have some funny Photos Don
good call.


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9 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:35 am

Thanks, Colin. I had a great time. These world class players
are just regular down to earth guys. I picked Dean up at the
airport as he had to go back to L.A. to teach and take care of
some things after the Yoshi's show. So I picked him up on
Thursday and took him to his hotel just outside Santa Cruz.

On the way down we laughed, joked, talked about family,
music and a bunch of other stuff. We're constantly busting
each others chops. Gary and Jerry are a couple of real
characters. Joking all the time... And Ric is just an all around
super nice guy... They all are actually. And Billy makes everyone
around him feel comfortable. Very easy to work with.

One thing that made this particular tour really fun was all the
laughing that went on. Laughs all the time, all the way around.
Everyone made the best of whatever the circumstances and the
music prevailed, which is as it should be.

Nobody was ready for the tour to end as they all felt they were
just finding the band's stride...

I hated to see them go. I wish they would have done a week here.

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10 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:18 pm

Wow! awesome photos, thanks for sharing.

This is the drum configuration Boomer should use all the time, it makes more sense.
The ride and hi hat can come in tighter and the toms are more simplified and focused in range.

Nice looking natural wood kit, very cool.

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11 Cravioto on Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:48 pm

The Cravioto kit sounded good... But 8K. for a 4 pc set?!
I can tell you right now that they didn't sound THAT good!

In the drums defense however I have to say that those
used and thick feeling remo coated heads on the toms
certainly didn't help... Beautiful inlays and very nice
craftsmanship on the esthetic level but that was a 9 pc.
set of drums so you're likely looking at upwards of 20K.

It certainly didn't look and sound like all that to me.
I thought the hybrid Yami set at Yoshi's sounded
noticeably better. But again, there was the issue with
the heads, but then if that's really all it is, what does
that say about these high priced drumkits? I'm just not
gonna be paying that kind of money for what these guys
are telling are supposed to be "the better" super kits...

You can keep em!

That Ludwig snare drum of Billy's sounded sweet! But in
my opinion Ludwig has always made great snare drums.

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12 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:11 am

From the memphis drum shop and other vids I have seen of current Ludwig drums I have to say they are making very great sounding instruments all around, and doing some fine veneer and finish work, too.

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13 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:43 am

Your right about that, overpriced equipment doesn't always sound the best.
It's a trend in the business now, I see people on Ebay all the time that got themselves in debt over
these kind of kits and they have to hock them on Ebay to get out of financial debt.

If you take a look at the kits used in the 60's and 70's that have the most revered sound that people listen to
today, they didn't cost an arm and a leg to buy back then and they revolutionized the sound of music.

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14 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:01 pm

drumman wrote:Your right about that, overpriced equipment doesn't always sound the best.
It's a trend in the business now, I see people on Ebay all the time that got themselves in debt over
these kind of kits and they have to hock them on Ebay to get out of financial debt.

If you take a look at the kits used in the 60's and 70's that have the most revered sound that people listen to
today, they didn't cost an arm and a leg to buy back then and they revolutionized the sound of music.

Yes, drumman but retro kits are VERY expensive today.

Asaph, I totally agree about Ludwig. Back in the day that's all I'd play.
Then their quality control went to pot and it got to the place where you'd
only find Ludwig kits in these little mom and pop music stores where you
would go to rent violins and clarinets for your kids to play in the school band.

Today, they've really stepped up their game and are making some good quality
gear. My hope is to get another ludwig kit someday. Check out the website...
Good stuff. http://www.ludwig-drums.com/

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15 Re: Spectrum 40 in Santa Cruz on Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:14 pm

You guys look so great! I wish I
could have been there, with you.

I had hoped to be out in the NYC
or NE area but things changed.

So much going on. Miss all of you.

Someday, Billy - we'll meet and
we'll talk a long time.

Love you, man.

Regards,


PS: Don - You look great. afro


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