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1 China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:44 pm

Hi all,

Well after several years I finally bought TIMF last week, and among everything on that album one thing that stood out for me was the sound of that China cymbal (or Chinese if you prefer Laughing ) . Does anyone know the make and model of it? I'm assuming it was a Zildjian, and that it may have been discontinued several years ago.

Bearing in mind that studio trickery at the time was comparatively limited, I think it sounds absolutely fantastic. Certainly in comparison to the 18" Paiste PST5 I'm playing at the moment Very Happy 

Thanks & best,

Mark

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2 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:16 am

i think it was 22" Swish Knocker

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3 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sat Aug 03, 2013 1:29 pm

Igor wrote:i think it was 22" Swish Knocker

That's it, Igor! I still have the one I bought some 30 plus
years ago.

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4 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:20 pm

Here's what Zildjian is offering today-
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums-percussion/zildjian-avedis-22-swish-knocker-a0315

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5 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:32 pm

I think Zildjian sold quite a few of those because of Billy.
He was certainly the reason I bought mine!

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6 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sun Aug 04, 2013 10:28 am

don't forget that Louis Bellson also played it

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7 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:13 pm

Zildjuan 22: Swish Knocker.

Boomer

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8 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sun Aug 04, 2013 3:15 pm

Igor wrote:don't forget that Louis Bellson also played it

Yes, and so did Buddy Rich. But respectfully, they weren't the reason
they caught on so well. It was Billy, high up, upside down, knocking
the cymbal grooves off of it.

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9 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sun Aug 04, 2013 9:32 pm

I had bought one too ,, around 1975 , because Boomer used one but it did not have the rivets in it. That one was stolen from me when my house was burglarized and my trap case was taken . Lost some valuable zildjians and a Ludwig snare that day . But I purchased another one after that and it had the rivets in it. Always loved the sound of it ! That one I still have .



Peace, TED

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10 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sun Mar 23, 2014 10:55 am

I still have mine. Zildjian 22" swish.
What a beast it is. I've actually had musicians I play with tell me to not use that cymbal because it is so trashy or annoying to them.
Mine doesn't have rivets, either.
I bought mine in the late 70's because of Billys signature sound.

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11 Re: China on The Inner Mounting Flame on Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:29 pm

Mine originally had the rivets, but they all fell out.

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