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1 Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:07 pm

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2 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:24 pm

Again this young man is incredible no doubt and his polyrythmic coordination is just impeccable. I'm yet to hear him as he begins to age a bit in a more musical setting. But as a soloist, what can one say? The youngster is incredible and I look foward into his contribution.

Thanks D for that vid of another angle of seeing Jr. I think it's the most strongest points in his being recognised as a soloist/drummer.

Again,...I bow in my humble state of opinion,

rac

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3 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:34 pm

This type of drumming is Tony's forte,' Rac. He's quite good at it, no doubt.
Let's see what the future holds for him within this musical arena.

High hopes. Cool

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4 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:27 pm

D. Slam wrote:This type of drumming is Tony's forte,' Rac. He's quite good at it, no doubt.
Let's see what the future holds for him within this musical arena.

High hopes. Cool
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Yep Don I want to see him grow, and become a complete drummer.

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5 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:28 pm

If he is drummer for Jay Z on a professional level, he makes us look weak!
More power to that brother!!

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6 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:55 am

"Us"??!! Speak for yourself, dude... Suspect

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7 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:00 am

he's making more money on one gig than all of our careers combined.

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8 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:53 am

You have no clue as to what I make or what Tony makes for that matter.... Again,
I say speak for yourself and don't judge the rest of us by the cover of YOUR book!

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9 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Tue Dec 21, 2010 2:07 pm

Tony with Jay Z, he has to play within the confines of the music, but Jay Z gives him a lot of freedom, because he makes the show much, much better. And if you will notice in these videos, he is not doing chops all over the place. Tony also has a nice website. And I didn't know that he played for the president, it is on his site. http://www.tonyroysterjr.com/


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10 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:18 pm

Jay-Z $34,547,053 just from tour revenue
I'm sure tony will pull down a nice chunk

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11 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Wed Dec 22, 2010 2:56 pm

kenny wrote:Jay-Z $34,547,053 just from tour revenue

Amazing, considering how boring Jay-Z's music is.
I watched the first clip. Tony sounds good, though
I thought the tune was a bit redundant.

It amazes me how those who have sweat blood and
tears in the process of developing real talent struggle
to make ends meet and you have guys like Jay-Z,
jumping on the bandwagon and making a financial
killing!.... It boggles the mind. Question scratch No

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12 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Wed Dec 22, 2010 3:25 pm

Agreed! That's less about music and more about making a scene and people feeling like they are part of some "happening". mob mentality
Branford marsalis tells it like it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rz2jRHA9fo

hey i was in oakland friday night playing with our friends band Brass Menazeri @ bottom of the hill tavern. Brass Menazeri is so amazing and barely break even. Then we played in berkeley and on pirate cat radio sunday on the balkan vulcan show.

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13 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:40 pm

Here's the flip side of the coin.

I just picked up the DVD of Jay-Z's better musical half,
Beyonce.

It was recorded live at the Wynn hotel in Las Vegas.
An absolutely brilliant performance! Beyonce knowles
puts on a show like no other! No lip syncing either,
this girl simply performs her heart out. And her all
girl band is simply slammin!

Two drummers and they rock the house! The
band is rock solid and tight as a drum. The DVD
is called "I am yours" and is a 2009
performance.

I highly recommend this live DVD to anyone's collection.
Whether or not you like her music, you can only appreciate
the heartfelt effort that both Beyonce and her fabulous
band puts into this performance.

As Colin would say: 10 outta 10.

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14 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:55 am

Tony will most likely get paid a salary for this gig with Jay-z....just as the rest of his ''Backing'' band. Believe me, he's not pulling any big chunks of change from this gig.

Unless he has a part in the songwriting. I bet he gets about 1000.00 -1500.00 per week. plus hotels and a per diem for daily expenses like food.

I have friends who play for really big names, and they've clued me in to the payrates that they get,

Just my 2 cents--D.L.

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15 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Thu Dec 23, 2010 7:31 pm

You are absolutely right, D. L. I knew some players that worked with James Brown
and their Salary was $1200 a week and hotels. On top of that, James was notorious
for docking folk a good portion of their fee if their pants wasn't creased right or if they
missed a que during performance.

I'm quite sure that Tony isn't getting a big chunk of anything. When I went out with
E.C. my salary was $800.00 a week plus hotels and 1 meal a day. and by comparison
she is a virtual unknown. Not trying to put my business in the street, just trying to show
the relativity.... It ain't all that we may think. Shocked
These guys don't get rich paying out big bucks they do by taking them in. lol!

Oh yeah, and I got 1099nd every year too!

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16 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:31 pm

But wouldn't a top rated drummer like Tony command a nice chunk of change, I mean here is a guy who gets free drums from DW and he is a worldwide known drummer, who can make much money doing studio stuff and also doing like Dennis Chambers and play with everybody and make money. Jay Z wanted him to be his drummer, the first time Tony could not do it, but the second time he landed in Atlanta from a gig in France and was on his way home to California where he now lives, and his manager said that he was wanted in New York now, so he never made it home at that time, and he has been with Jay from that day to now. Tony gets great money going around the world giving clinics and playing with other cats, the brother ain't broke, and his dad who is also a musician a guitar player deals with his affairs. I am willing to bet that Tony is making more than the other members of the band. Plus he he makes them drum videos and they must sell well because he keeps making them.

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17 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:00 am

D. Slam wrote: When I went out with
E.C. my salary was $800.00 a week plus hotels and 1 meal a day.
Oh yeah, and I got 1099nd every year too!
How many shows a week for 800.00 Don?


I get a feeling Jay Z can afford large salaries for his players. I mean if this guy is selling out arenas 5 nights a week ,I bet they make a large salary based on that. Quite different from playing a casino gig.

I'm happy for them either way. Tony was in the right place and got a sweet gig. He is alot more musical than alot of those world's fastest drum off goofballs. I think the difference is in musical knowledge as opposed to just having techniques to help you play fast. Although that can open doors it won't teach you how to be musical. To me it's about knowledge of rhythms not tricks or even rudiments but that's how Isee it. All these Johnny rabbs and jojo mayers to me are stuck in 4/4. Now virgil donati he's a different story.

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18 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:38 am

Jay Z is also part owner of the New Jersey Nets, owns some night clubs and clothing lines, I found this stuff below.



Some say Jay-Zís net worth closer to $500 million but when you account for all the many sources of income he has itís hard not to reasonably bump that figure closer to a solid $1 billion. Here are the facts:

Clothing: Jay sold Rocaware clothing, which he co-founded, for $204 million back in 2007. If Rocaware met certain performance milestones he could pull down an additional $35 million in Iconix (the buyer) stock.

Records: Every single album heís ever released (over 15) have gone platinum.

Endorsements: Chevy, Budweiser, Armadale Vodka, Hewlett Packard

Concerts: His recent deal with Live Nation is reportedly worth $150 million

Miscellaneous: Jayís ownership stake in the New Jersey Nets, Arsenal Football Club, 40/40 nighclubs, Def Jam Records

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19 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:09 am

There's no doubt that Tony is doing very well for himself, and he deserves it. He is a great drummer.
But I think this whole tangent of the thread came about when Kenny said ''he makes more money one one gig than all of our careers combined''

I think that statement is a bit over the top, and definitely not correct. I'm positive whatever he has worked out with Jay z,.. he's still on a salary, and still a backing member. Now Kenny aronoff who is probably one of the world's top guys to call was getting $5000 a week for himself AND his tech.

Tony, as great a drummer as he is, has nowhere near the credentials. Now let's see:

suppose Tony was getting Aronoff money ( which he's not)

5000 a week---I'd say tops he does 4-5 shows. That would break it down to roughly 1000-1250 per gig.

Not more than ALL of our careers combined...cmon now...

Of course Jay z is a business enterprise, but it's a business...think about it.

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20 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Fri Dec 24, 2010 2:31 pm

Okay I was exagerating. Tony competed and it got him to the top of the pack. I think he is probably the highest paid drummer in the world at this point or one of them. That doesn't really mean anything to me on a musical level. The best musicians in the world i know personally don't get paid squat because they don't appeal to the hoard of uneducated sheep. At least jay Z has a live band and not a dj laying down the beats. he's probably a good rapper i don't have time to listen to him though.

I can't stand that style of music in general, not that i don't think it takes talent or dedication i just find it boring to watch someone selling themself through the art of bragadoccio. It seems uplifting to alot of people i find it disturbing myself. Especially the volume on that stuff it's like the nazis luring people into the gas chambers. I heard Snoop dogg one night at an outside concert every one of those people are gonna be deaf real soon. I don't even know why would anyone would let that guy near a microphone either? Like kanye west said in his song "i can excite you" It seems like kanye is willing to try to be creative but that weird ego thing is not appealing to anyone but a lot of pole dancers and their clientele. here's how you make it in music these days in this article in the wall street journal;

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303720604575169933636121658.html

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21 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:16 pm

Who knows he could be making a few thousand a week with the sale of his videos which seem to do well, and I don't know what kind of deal he's got going with DW, Sabian, and Gilbralter, to showcase their stuff, and he still does clinics when he can. I wonder what clinics pay any well known musician who does them. But anyway with the videos and Jay Z and other little stuff on the side he is making a nice living,

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22 Re: Spanky, I do recognize and acknowledge. on Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:04 pm

How many shows a week for 800.00 Don?

It didn't matter, Kenny. I was paid weekly for just being out.
Sometimes we'd have as much as 5 days off in a row but I still
got my weekly salary. But in answer to your question it would
average out to where we played about 4 to 5 days a week.

I believe D.L. put this thread in true prospective. It ain't about
how Rich Jay-Z or any of these "stars" are, it's about what they
pay their sidemen. To them the players they hire are privileged
just to have such a high profile position. And by comparison to
what these mega stars make, their side players gets peanuts.

Tony Royster does it like everyone else, It's a numbers game.
His money is made more in the number of gigs he plays than in
what he gets per gig. Don't misunderstand me, as I'm sure that
he is making a nice chunk of change and is making a good living.
But it's nothing even close to what you (Kenny and Spanky) might
think.

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