top ten drummers of all time !Where is Billy???

Hi Guys,
A few days ago,i saw a list of the top ten drummers of all time at drummerworld.com , i don't know why but Billy is not in this top ten?Bonham and Krupa may had more impact on drums than Billy???...I'm not sure,but it's just me!here this famous list:Bellson-Bonham-Chambers-Colaiuta-Gadd-Jones-Krupa-Rich-Weckl-Williams.Peace,Stef

No worries, stephane, Billy's in OUR top ten...That's all that matters!!!!

Yeah, fuzit's right, Stephane... Don't pay any attention to those things. Though I haven't seen it,
it's likely some of their picks would make me laugh.

Let me say it again..... Buddy Rich, Tony Williams, Billy Cobham, Steve Gadd. These are absolutely
the last four drummers to revolutionize an almost total approach to the way most if not all of us approach
playing the traps to date that is practically the standard.

There can be NO genuine top ten list of drummers with any of these four names missing......... PERIOD!

Let's make our own lists.

OK. Let me start and there is
no real order to this and there
are many more, really. I guess
these are my favorites:

1. Gene Krupa
2. Buddy Rich
3. Louis Bellson
4. Tony Williams
5. Billy Cobham
6. Steve Gadd
7. Barriemore Barlow
8. Vinnie Coluiata
9. Dennis Chambers
10. Virgil Donati

Regards,

11. Terry Bozzio
12. Carl Palmer
13. Jack DeJohnette
14. Lenny White
15. John Bonham
16. Shelly Manne
17. Sonny Payne
18. Elvin Jones
19. Ed Thigpen
20. Harvey Mason

Interesting, Pete.

Though I personally never really cared for Gene Krupa's playing. I think he probably did the most for putting traps on the map in the early years.

He definitely deserves a spot in the top ten as Gene could surely play. His style just never appealed to me personally. But his contribution to the
trap drumming community is among if not THE largest.

I think the greatest players are the ones who have totally developed their own signatures to the degree where they sound like no one else. Not
everyone on your list meets that particular criteria.

I know it really boils down to
opinion and likes/dislikes. I
could on and add more to the
list and they would all be de-
erving, in my book and again,
not in any real order:

21. Ndugu
22. Bernard Purdie
23. Louis Hayes
24. Mitch Mitchell
25. Michael Shrieve
26. Bill Bruford
27. Alphonse Mouzon
28. Narada Michael Walden
29. Earl Palmer
30. Duffy Jackson

On Gene, I think it was his groove
and animation that did it for me.

Also the man that Buddy and Krupa respected the most, Chick Webb

Right!! He was the one I
was thinking of!! Thanks
a bunch, Spanky!!

I think it is pretty subjective to whoever is making a list of their favorite/greatest drummers of all time.
If you poll ten different people I think you'd get ten different responses.

Funny you should mention Barriemore Barlow, Pete.
He was called "the greatest rock drummer England ever produced" by the late John Bonham.
I saw Tull last year in concert and it was one of the best concerts I've been to in a while. Of course with Doane Perry on drums.

Remember, Pete,

Only ten can make the top ten of ALL TIME. four of them are already taken care of.
Let's see what I can do with the next six:

Not in any particular order:

Gene K.
Chick Webb
Louis Bellson
Elvin Jones
Art Blakey
Max Roach

So you see, we'd have to have a top 20 before any of the more modern greats got in as far as I'm concerned.
And rest assured I know without a doubt that I'm leaving off some great ones. I was wondering how I could
squeeze Joe Morello in there.

OH sh--!! How could I have
left out Max and Art Blakey?!



This is too hard!! lol

Yeah, I like those picks, Don.
I just can't think of the drums
without DeJohnette's influence.

They are all great and most,
for me, have real signature.

And Woody, Barrie, forever,
will be one of the greatest
drummers I have ever seen.
People just don't realize what
he did with Tull and how 'out
of the box' he was and AS
precise. I mean perfect.

Woody wrote:Funny you should mention Barriemore Barlow, Pete.
He was called "the greatest rock drummer England ever produced" by the late John Bonham.
I saw Tull last year in concert and it was one of the best concerts I've been to in a while. Of course with Doane Perry on drums.

I think Michael Giles, of King Crimson, was one of the best that England produced, he is a early Fusion drummer out of England like Mitch Mitchell.

i gotta throw roy haynes in that list!

Kenny!

Oh, yeah!!

Hey check out Mike Giles playing on this tune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CBWq2l_UE4

No doubt, Spanky. He was a real inspiration
for me, with King Crimson. He could have gone
on the further glory, with the band, having
incredible skill. I remember how clean he
was and when I played, I could not help
to hold his example high. A very dynamic
player, as can be heard on this tune.

Regards,

I thinks she needs to develop more power...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liWGp37npZU&feature=related

Hi,

Barriemore Barlow is definitely on my top ten list. His outstanding and impeccable drumming is especially evident on works like ”Thick As A Brick” and ”Bursting Out – Live”. This dvd-release is highly recommended for Barlow and Jethro Tull fans:

http://www.amazon.com/Jethro-Tull-Madison-Square-Garden/dp/B002IR3PSC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1264431443&sr=8-1

My top ten list consists more of modern drummers since I haven’t explored the older drummers enough. These kind of lists are not that easy to assemble, but anyway here’s one list (again in no particular order):

1. Dennis Chambers
2. Buddy Rich
3. Billy Cobham
4. Gary Husband
5. Bill Bruford
6. Carl Palmer
7. Barriemore Barlow
8. Steve Gadd
9. Steve Smith
10. Narada Walden


Kind regards,
Anders

i am making lists of straight ahead jazz players that are the original pioneers, fusion players that followed and british prog rock players in another. I am really bored apparently but lumping rock and jazz players together

1 Bilham cobley 1 Dennis chambers
2 buddy rich 2 Dave Weckl
3 Steve gadd 3 terry silverlight
4 Roy haynes 4 virgil
5 lenny white 5 bozzio
6 krupa 6 furio
7 chick webb 7 chester
8 sonny payne 8 ralph humphries
9 morello 9 vinnie
10 max 10 chad

1 Bill bruford
2 Pip pyle
3 Phil Collins
4 Barriemore Barlow
5 Clive bunker
6 ringo!!!!!!!
7 robert wyatt
8 micheal giles
9 gary husband
10 john weathers



Have you heard the bad plus? that drummer is smokin!
Also the drummer with bassist avishai cohen is real good.

somebody who is into funk start a funk
drummer list with Clyde Stubblefield
maybe he is the inventor of funk!!!

WOW!! The lists you guys came up with made me realize how many great drummers I've had the pleasure to hear in my lifetime!

I feel special just knowing I can plop in a disk, or drop a LP on the turntable and listen to them anytime! (Hope I'm not sounding too corny! )

I didn't see any particular parameters for who should be on such a list. Did the original list have any such benchmarks?

If I had to look at drumming as a history and the players who had the most influence on their generation of drummers and beyond I might say, despite overall talent:

Krupa
Rich
Roach
Williams
Baker
Bonham
Starr
Palmer
Gadd
Colaiuta/Weckl

I have a hard time separating Vinnie and Dave. I see them as this one solid impact on their generation, both of them heavily influenced by Gadd and Tony.

Of coarse, for better or worse players like Criss and Ulrich could also be placed on the list. Never influenced me but certainly influenced tons of kids who took up playing drums, same as Ringo did for me.

If I chose to look at influencing exactly how the instrument is played and made an innovative stamp on the instrument itself:

Krupa - soloist
Rich - total technique
Roach - melodic concepts/drum set orchestration
Woodyard/Bellson - double bass
Williams - conceptual ideas/odd groupings
Palmer/Stubblefield/Starks - funk/grooves
Bonham - heavy rock footwork/triplet craze
Starr - two decades of dead drum sound
Cobham - open handed playing/free hand punctuation/tom fills
Gadd - time keeping/groove concepts
Colaitua/Weckl - odd time

It's always true and safe to say none of these players were islands unto themselves. They were all influenced by others before them. I do believe these players made definitive impacts on how the instrument is played, but, with that in mind you have to put Dodds, Webb, Papa Joe, and so many others on the list.

Neh. It's an impossible list to make.