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DrummersHealth.com For The Health Of Drummers

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D. Slam
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spanky

spanky

DrummersHealth.com
For the Art of Drumming

I never knew that a site like this existed, but it is good to know that one is around, for us drummers. Good stuff over there.

http://www.sportsrehab.com/qanda.htm



D. Slam

D. Slam

About 3 months ago, I was on my back and down for the count.
I had a Sciatic nerve problem which stemmed from bone misalignment
and lower back muscle strain. I wouldn't wish the kind of pain I went
through on someone who was trying end my life (well maybe that's not
true Razz). It was excruciating and totally debilitating. When I say I was on
my back, I mean exactly that! I could walk about 40 feet before falling to
my knees in unbearable pain and I couldn't stand for no more than
15 seconds. I couldn't sleep because there was no relief regardless the
position I tried to lay in. It was bad and it was like that for 4 weeks.
The chiropractor could barely touch me the first visit.

He told me that over the years of just going through everyday life, your
body takes some serious abuse. From the time that we're kids into adulthood:
Running, jumping falling, twisting bending, lifting, etc. Sitting a lot and playing
the drums over the years hasn't helped either. That's why a good drum throne
is PARAMOUNT! All that takes it's toll on the spine over time and we should have
our backs maintenanced regularly.

When the spine is out of whack and putting pressure and stress on any of the
nerve branches that stems from the spinal cord, it causes problems in other
areas of the body as well. I was going to the Chiropractor twice a week for a
couple of weeks then once a week for a month, then once every two weeks
and I'm at once every three weeks right now. The plan is to get one visit a
month for regular adjustments and maintenance.

This website is cool, but I say take care of yourself simply as a person.
When the body goes down there's not much we can do until we get it right.

TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES!!! Basketball sunny Sleep

woofus

woofus

Very important stuff; thanks to Spanky for posting. Don, that sounds awful and too realistic/close to home. I need to get a Roc-N-Soc fast because my throne is ridiculous. Just sitting too much in general, especially on a bad chair is dangerous. One thing that helps my lower back which you may already do is a series of different types of stomach crunches. They not only stretch your lower back, but also strengthen your core which supports everything. It's definitely a cure and proactive treatment.

http://www.myspace.com/jazzstream23

woofus

woofus

Don, one more exercise I'd like to recommend to you and the world here is walking backward. I know it sounds crazy, but it's a legitimate form of exercise. I've been doing it for several months now while walking the dog for fairly long distances. It definitely loosens the lower back. It also does a lot for knee injury prevention by strengthening opposing muscles, especially quads which support the knee. It's also great for balance, posture and alignment (you'll feel that when you do it). If you have any doubts, ask Muhammad Ali as moving backward was his style and he trained moving backward . . . and if you do it for a few months your ass basically turns into two bowling balls side-by-side.

http://www.myspace.com/jazzstream23

D. Slam

D. Slam

Woofus, Audrey and I exercise regularly and that includes a lot of core training.
As of Feb of 09, we committed to a lifestyle change regarding our state of heath
and we both have lost 45 lbs. to date. I have to try the backwards walking thing.
Maybe I'll throw in a moon walk for good measure! lol!

Things were a bit tough for me when I was injured but I'm now back in full swing
and no doubt we both have learned some things for the better. Being proactive
as opposed to reactive where our health is concerned is absolutely priceless!

Ted E. Bear

Ted E. Bear


If you buy the roc N Soc Keith, purchase the back rest with it - you'll be glad you did . I'm very happy with mine !


Peace, TED

http://www.drumminfool.com

woofus

woofus

Keep up the great work, D.

Ted, that's more stuff to lug around, but could be worthwhile. Not sure leaning back while playing is a good thing, but could add stability. On the ancient throne I have I'm not having much help with stability, but wondering if that's a good thing for active play (rationalization!) . . . couple years ago I assembled the Roc-N-Soc with the backrest for our former bass player, so very familiar with the product. I like the hydraulic version and the whole thing is pretty lightweight. I recall you've got the spindle version . . .

http://www.myspace.com/jazzstream23

Ted E. Bear

Ted E. Bear



I do have the spindle version yes. But I don't lean back on it when I'm playing unless I'm doing something with the double bass pedal. I find that gives better stability and a little more power in the legs. But in-between songs is when I use it mostly and I find it gives a nice little breather for my back. I have 3 herniated discs in the low and mid-back and 5 in the neck plus other bulging ones so anything I can do to help is welcome.



Peace, TED

http://www.drumminfool.com

woofus

woofus

Holy cannoli, Ted, I guess that's what you get for wiring-up most of NYC. You might wanna try using MSM and/or NAC to help with pain/inflammation. Both are totally nontoxic.

http://www.myspace.com/jazzstream23

Ted E. Bear

Ted E. Bear


thanks Keith and yes it was from construction injuries. I use either advil or celebrex for anti-imflammatory and for pain it's Vikodin .



Peace, TED

http://www.drumminfool.com

spanky

spanky

You ever notice how Brian Blade plays, he plays like sort of hunched over his drums, and hunches over even more to reach his cymbals. Now he seems to be great playing like this, but how do you guy's think his posture will effect him down the road. and who knows it might not do anything to him. But some years back when I first saw this video, his posture was one of the first things that I noticed, but he is a absolutely fantastic drummer.

Ted E. Bear

Ted E. Bear


I saw hi play live with John Mclaughlin and Chick Corea in the Five Peace Band and while his playing was excellent, I agree that his posture was disturbing. I guess if he's comfortable with it, then that's the determining factor, but I would believe his back will be bothering him down the road.

[img]DrummersHealth.com For The Health Of Drummers Five_p10[/img]

http://www.drumminfool.com

spanky

spanky

He plays that little bass drum and his mounted tom is a little low, and he sits back some so he has to lean forward, to do cymbal work. But hey' that's the way he learned to play.

Wow Ted who have you not met and took a picture with man ? You are the man, have you ever posted all the famous musicians that you have met ?

D. Slam

D. Slam

That boy's all up in the groove like Slick, Rick!

Spanky,

That (his posture) will likely eventually take it's toll. Buddy
Rich used to play hunched over like that and his back went
bad.I remember seeing him around 82 or so, and between
songs you could see him arching his back as if to stretch it
out and alleviate the pain and You could also see the pain in
his face when he did that.

Plus, he sat high and on one of those thin, round, hard drum
thrones. I guess sitting like that looks cool and jazzy. I wonder
if it's worth the price paid however? I tend to doubt it.

Ted E. Bear

Ted E. Bear


Lots of people I still haven't met yet Spanky, but hope to one day ! I do have a lot of photos up on my facebook page if you get a chance to join and become my friend .




Peace, TED

http://www.drumminfool.com

kenny

kenny

when i see drummers with their shoulders riding up it's a sign of being unrelaxed. it's kind of a no no. I think it's important to keep that area relaxed and not drawn up and tense. It looks it, too.
definitely go for the roc n soc with the hydraulics!!!!!

http://www.balkanmusic.org

tconrad



DrummersHealth.com is a great resource. .... Thanks again to Spanky for posting this.

I don't know why but when I read this post I thought of a drummer I saw while watching the concert-DVD called "T.A.M.I. Show" ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058631 ). .... The drummer for the group called "the Barbarians", whose name is Victor "Moulty" Moulton, is a one-armed drummer. .... His left arm is a prosthetic device. .... You can see part of the device in the picture posted on http://israa.org/view.php?id=259354 .... He plays quite well---I was amazed. .... At one point the camera focused on him during his performance and you can see the drum stick somehow held by the prosthesis.

spanky

spanky

The Tami show went to see it in the movies when it came out, and I have a poster of it on the wall in my basement. But here is one for ya.


Richard John Cyril "Rick" Allen (born 1 November 1963) is the drummer for the English hard rock band Def Leppard. He is famous for overcoming the complete amputation of his left arm and continuing to play with the band, which subsequently went on to its greatest popular success worldwide. His fans now call him the "Thunder God".
[img]DrummersHealth.com For The Health Of Drummers 250px-RickAllen[/img]
Accident and recovery

On 31 December 1984, on the way to a New Year's Eve party at his family's home in Sheffield, England, 21-year-old Allen was driving his Chevrolet Corvette when an Alfa Romeo passed him. Allen claims that the driver had been egging him on and that he would not allow him to pass. In his rage to pass this driver, he became reckless, did not see a turn up ahead and lost control of his car, which sailed over a stone wall and into a field. He was thrown from the car, with his left arm severed because the seatbelt was not properly fastened. The car ended up upside down, with his girlfriend Miriam Barendsen secure in her seat. She was not seriously injured, and found Allen in the field. They were helped by a passerby, who was a nurse, and Allen was taken to a hospital. Doctors initially reattached Allen's arm, but because of infection it was removed again. He left the hospital three and a half weeks later and was back with Def Leppard in the Netherlands two weeks after getting out of the hospital with recuperation expected[citation needed] to last six months.

Allen thought that he could not continue drumming for Def Leppard and became very depressed, so Def Leppard's lead singer, Joe Elliott, stopped by to see Allen in an attempt to cheer him up. Soon after, Elliot and Allen sat down with some engineers and started to design a drum set to assist Allen's drumming. After all of this, he could still play some drum beats with one hand, using his left foot (typically for hi-hat pedals in common drumsets), to play the snare drum. Former Status Quo drummer Jeff Rich was a source of help and encouragement during Allen's convalescence, and they designed an electronic kit Allen could play using only one arm. (The Ludwig acoustic drum kit he used on earlier albums High 'n' Dry and Pyromania was later given away by Def Leppard's onetime management.) Electronic drum manufacturer Simmons created a kit to their specifications, and Allen made his post-accident debut in 1986 with a well-received set at the "Monsters of Rock" festival at Castle Donington. In August 1987, the band released their fourth album, Hysteria, which, after a relatively slow start in the U.S., ultimately became another huge success, selling over 20 million copies worldwide.

Def Leppard - Rick Allen Discusses His Technique

tconrad



This is so amazing. .... I'm speechless. .... Dumbfounded. .... Both of these one-armed drummers are definitely an inspiration to me.

boomer



A great bit here. This is what this forum is really about!!!!!!!!

Boomer

Racman

Racman

For I too have war wounds of a drummer's tale.

I mentioned a few of months ago working on a sign project for the U.S. Navy that consist of nine 4'x10' aluminum panels that weighed a 140 pounds each. Well, I did it to myself again - while trying to lift one of those panels I accidentally pulled a ligament in my right arm, just inside the mid-forearm. All I heard was a squeeeeshy sound - likened to ringing a wet rag. Doctor diagnosed it being a stretched tenant and needs to be on sabatical for at least 4 months.

Thank God I can still play due to my style of using more wrist than arm movement. It only hurts when trying to scratch the top of my head. It's in that position that I share the glory. But yes, as we know that playing drums is a very physical instrument and thus needs our attention to it's physical susceptibiliy to injury....for sure. But yet I find myself prone to injury more so on the normal job environments. But thank you for that helpful site.

racman

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