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1Black Magic Empty Black Magic Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:49 pm

D. Slam

D. Slam

Hey all,

I just bought a Ludwig "Black Magic" snare drum.
It's an 8X14, 10 lug, nickel over brass drum with
diecast hoops and Puresound snares. It's finished
in black chrome (black nickel).

This drum sounds fantastic! The brass shell
gives it the snap, bite and attack while the
depth balances things out by giving it added
body and fullness.

Ludwig, IMO has always been among the top
in manufacturing metal snare drums. they are
definitely among the best if not THE....

They call this drum "The poor man's black beauty",
as like almost everything else, the drum is
manufactured in Taiwan... Nonethesless, it sounds
killer. I paid $364.00 for it (not on line).

I haven't used any kind of metal snare in a very long
time. This one's very nice and I'm really looking forward
to making music with it.


"The 14 x 8 Ludwig Black Magic Snare Drum is inspired by the Ludwig Coliseum. It may be the ultimate in low-bodied power and projection. Based on Ludwig's legendary Black Beauty snare drums - long the optimal choice for touring and recording drummers in need of volume, tonal clarity, and optimal snare response - Ludwig has gone one step further with the Black Magic snare. A classic formula for a more aggressive musical age, Black Magic snare drums share the same shell type with the Black Beauty, but with upgrades like matching die-cast hoops for increased volume, and tube-style lugs for maximum shell resonance. 14 x 8 shell size Black nickel-over-brass shell The ultimate in low-bodied power and projection."

http://shopping.yahoo.com/components/large_image;_ylt=A2KJ39JtDDdOjEEA_Bt0rcUu?id=771376958



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2Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:54 pm

Racman

Racman

low-bodied power and projection.
D
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Beautiful D! I noticed the badge which mimics the 1960's badge.? When Ludwig states, 'low-bodied and projection' would that be refering to it's lower projections? If so, it sounds like Ludwig designed a metal snare with a combined sound, if I may put it that way, between being metal but also having the richness of a wood sound - which would produce that lower-end projection as they note. This is what I'm thinking here. Would I be correct on that D?

I know about 3 years ago Tama came out with a Brass snare that aimed for that same sound. A friend of mine owns one and claims it does have that combined sound of metal alloy and wood yet weighing in around a ton.

Thanks,

rac

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3Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:44 pm

D. Slam

D. Slam

When Ludwig states, 'low-bodied and projection' would that be refering to it's lower projections? If so, it sounds like Ludwig designed a metal snare with a combined sound, if I may put it that way, between being metal but also having the richness of a wood sound - which would produce that lower-end projection as they note. This is what I'm thinking here. Would I be correct on that D?

That is exactly right, Rac... Listen to this beast.



Of course this is studio.... But trust me, like two different shades
of blue that have the same hue, work together. This drum, likewise
has a phat snappy bite with that edgey metal character that you're
not gonna get from a wood shell. Again, Ludwig is right at the top
when it comes to metal snare drums. And it's been that way ever
since I've known about them.

4Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Wed Aug 03, 2011 5:30 am

Suss

Suss

D. Slam wrote:
When Ludwig states, 'low-bodied and projection' would that be refering to it's lower projections? If so, it sounds like Ludwig designed a metal snare with a combined sound, if I may put it that way, between being metal but also having the richness of a wood sound - which would produce that lower-end projection as they note. This is what I'm thinking here. Would I be correct on that D?

That is exactly right, Rac... Listen to this beast.



Of course this is studio.... But trust me, like two different shades
of blue that have the same hue, work together. This drum, likewise
has a phat snappy bite with that edgey metal character that you're
not gonna get from a wood shell. Again, Ludwig is right at the top
when it comes to metal snare drums. And it's been that way ever
since I've known about them.

Nephew D ... I REALLY like this snare and have seen it in action; though the player playing it tried to use it without playing the "music."

For me, it has the depth of resonance while it can also be tuned for the more brittle/piccolo attack. But why would anyone want one (1) drum to achieve two goals?

... depending on the resilience of the heads already used on the same one (1) drum, I think you'll find this snare's versatility to bring out more of your musicality.

I still miss my Roger's Dynasonic snare, while having my Noble & Cooley. I think what I'm saying is have spare batter and snare heads with smaller drums.

Congrats! Make good use of it.

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5Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:45 am

D. Slam

D. Slam

This snare has what I'm looking for from a brass drum.
Great attack, coupled with a full-bodied round, rich sound.

But why would anyone want one (1) drum to achieve two goals?

The question you pose is like asking someone why he or she
likes a certain color or combination of colors. Or why put a
nail claw on a hammer.... Because it works! At least for some
individuals.

I like the diverse characters this drum offers me. It's that simple.
Please excuse my analogy if your question was more rhetorical.

Thanks for the congrats... And I make good use of all my equipment.

6Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Wed Aug 03, 2011 7:52 am

Suss

Suss

[quote="D. Slam"]This snare has what I'm looking for from a brass drum.
Great attack, coupled with a full-bodied round, rich sound.


Thanks for the congrats... And I make good use of all my equipment.

"Cool" without the collateral damage Don. Rolling Eyes

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7Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:49 pm

D. Slam

D. Slam

No damage at-tall, Uncle John... Cool

8Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Wed Aug 03, 2011 2:15 pm

Suss

Suss

D. Slam wrote:No damage at-tall, Uncle John... Cool

I'm glad to hear this coming from you Nephew Don!

It'd be hard to resurrect this artifact of mine though - I pulled this Simmons Portakit out again just to play on resilient "pads" and not make noise. Shocked

Black Magic SussSimmonsPortaKitMidi

There are many songs on the Byte Side using this trigger contraption with a Korg S-3 sound module. As I trust you'll agree, it's nothing compared to an actual drum kit when mike'd properly...

... yet today when speaking with a pastor in NYC, Norbert Sloley prompted this song to send to him. He's not playing bass on this as he's done with many people till today:

http://www.johnsussewell.com/NoNotOne-CandiStatonWithSuss-GuessTheYear!.mp3

sunny

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9Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:47 pm

D. Slam

D. Slam

That's beefy, Unc!!!! Eveh-bodeh seh OWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
Sounds like Suss-squatch on the kick! affraid

Kickin tune, man!

I like the sound of that Simmons, You can stll feasably apply it today!

10Black Magic Empty Re: Black Magic Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:43 am

Suss

Suss

D. Slam wrote:That's beefy, Unc!!!! Eveh-bodeh seh OWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!
Sounds like Suss-squatch on the kick! affraid

Kickin tune, man!

I like the sound of that Simmons, You can stll feasably apply it today!

Hi Don! bounce Actually, the Simmon's Porta-kit was only a "trigger" module providing generic sounds unless midi'd with a proper sound module. The one I used was the Korg S-3 that allowed tunable drums (if you can believe that). They were both popular back in the late 80s to early 90s. The sequencing software was TEXTURE - the best one out for IBM/PCs when Apple had the real deal with audio and they're CuBase (also back then).

Glad you liked it. Thanks,

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